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Social Consequences and Effects of RFID Implants?
Posted by Cliff on Wednesday May 03, @11:45PM
from the chips-in-my-head dept.

kramdam asks: "Even with all the talk about privacy and security, there seems to be a growing community of people who are implanting themselves with RFID chips. Being a developer myself, I am intrigued about building applications and solutions that will open my doors, unlock my car, log me on to my computer and control home automation. I'm seriously considering jumping into this head first, being on the bleeding edge, and going with an implant. I have looked at resources like Mikey Sklar's site, and Amal Graafstra'ssite, since they are two pioneers on this subject. For research, I have started TaggedLife to document my own journey. I was wondering what the Slashdot community think about this. What do you think are the social, security, privacy, and health risks associated with this? What are the pluses? Would you do it?" Tag yourself with 666 while your at it. by mrraven (Score:2) Wednesday May 03, @11:47PM Re:Tag yourself with 666 while your at it. by Mutilated1 (Score:1) Wednesday May 03, @11:57PM Re:Tag yourself with 666 while your at it. by mrraven (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @12:28AM Re:Tag yourself with 666 while your at it. by thealsir (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @12:30AM (Score:4, Insightful)by mrraven (129238) on Thursday May 04, @12:42AM (#15260023) (http://treefunk.net/forum) I am however worried about ubiquitous tracking. How can that possible be good? Britain for example wants to track EVERY car on the roadsand then store the data for 2 years.
"Britain is to become the first country in the world where the movements of all vehicles on the roads are recorded. A new national surveillance system will hold the records for at least two years.
Using a network of cameras that can automatically read every passing number plate, the plan is to build a huge database of vehicle movements so that the police and security services can analyse any journey a driver has made over several years." http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/transport/article 334686.ece[independent.co.uk] Slashdot | Social Consequences and Effects of RFID Implants? http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/05/04/0030212 Don't they make the kiddes read 1984 anymore? How much moreblatant do things have to get before there is some sort of real effective reaction?Oh I forgot it's for the children, and against the terrorists and pirates, nevermind.
When I read stuff like this, off the grid survivalist/back to the land hippies don't sound tin foil hat crazy, they sound like smart forerunners of an underground resistance to tyranny.
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Re:Tag yourself with 666 while your at it. by Ohreally_factor (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @12:30AM Re:Tag yourself with 666 while your at it. by bsartist (Score:2) Wednesday May 03, @11:58PM 1 reply beneath your current threshold.
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(Score:5, Interesting)by borisborf (906678) on Wednesday May 03, @11:48PM (#15259753) (http://www.colemonty.com/) Inplantable RFID tags are just not for me. Sounds a little to, well, end-times-ish. I would rather have an RFID watch or something. Sure, it could be stolen, but what about a central control website where if it was stolen, I just deactivate the code from it and put in the code for my new watch. Problem solved.
[ Reply to This ] Exactly - why implant an RFID device?
(Score:5, Interesting)by maillemaker (924053) on Wednesday May 03, @11:55PM (#15259791)Since it seems security devices are always being compromised, I'd hate to have to cut myself open every time one of these things had been likewise compromised.
I agree - an RFID watch would be much better - perhaps an RFID watch that can identify the person wearing it biometrically, even.
Re:Exactly - why implant an RFID device? by mikesd81 (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @12:02AM Re:Exactly - why implant an RFID device?
(Score:5, Funny)by malex23 (645752) on Thursday May 04, @12:50AM (#15260051)Or, depending on the size of the chip, it could be kept on something harder to snatch. say, a nipple ring.
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(Score:5, Insightful)by Lectrik (180902) on Thursday May 04, @01:34AM(#15260219) For this to work, unfortunately it would have to go inside.
You can't get an MRI once you've been tagged, so the nipple ring would be an improvement in the case you want a MRI for some critical thing instead of it having to be cut out of your arm.
[ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:Exactly - why implant an RFID device?
(Score:4, Insightful)by morie (227571) on Thursday May 04, @04:07AM (#15260586) (http://www.asopos.nl/) Which I imagine to be _extremely_ painfull when torn from the nipple by a thief Then again, some people may get off on that.
However, I'd stick with a watch/bracelet[ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:Exactly - why implant an RFID device? by avronius (Score:2)
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(Score:5, Funny)by Ohreally_factor (593551) on Thursday May 04, @12:17AM (#15259908) (Last Journal: Sunday November 27, @03:29PM) I'm surprised no one has come to market with a Bluetooth tooth. I know I'd get one, just for the grin factor.
[ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:Exactly - why implant an RFID device? by zippthorne (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @12:24AM Re:Exactly - why implant an RFID device? by beoswulf (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @12:45AM Chilling by Ginger Unicorn (Score:1) Thursday May 04, Slashdot | Social Consequences and Effects of RFID Implants? http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/05/04/0030212 Re:Chilling by scottv67 (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @08:55PM Re:Exactly - why implant an RFID device? by MarkScott65 (Score:1)
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(Score:4, Funny)by Nefarious Wheel (628136) on Thursday May 04, @01:13AM (#15260141).perhaps an RFID watch that can identify the person wearing it biometrically, even. Forget that, I want a Lens. Where's Mentor when you need him? Dang, that guycould forecast.
Re:Exactly - why implant an RFID device? by mr100percent (Score:3) Thursday May 04, @01:52AM Re:Exactly - why implant an RFID device? by dodobh (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @11:37AM Re:Exactly - why implant an RFID device? by grylnsmn (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @07:46AM Re:Exactly - why implant an RFID device? by Nefarious Wheel (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @08:14AM Re:Exactly - why implant an RFID device? by Arimatheus (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @01:21AMRe:Exactly - why implant an RFID device? by Megane (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @08:40AMRe:Exactly - why implant an RFID device? by Lumpy (Score:3) Thursday May 04, @09:26AM Re:Exactly - why implant an RFID device? by griffjon (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @12:28PMRe:Exactly - why implant an RFID device? by sakasune (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @12:54PM Re:Exactly - why implant an RFID device? by WUPA (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @11:20AM Re:Well. by utlemming (Score:2) Wednesday May 03, @11:58PM Re:Well. by bsartist (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @12:05AM Re:Well. by Mr. Slippery (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @12:45AM Re:Well. by twistedsymphony (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @08:14AM Re:Well.
(Score:5, Insightful)by Feanturi (99866) on Thursday May 04, @02:40AM (#15260409) Slashdot | Social Consequences and Effects of RFID Implants? http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/05/04/0030212 You *already* need to take yourself apart to foil biometric ID. Well the last time I had imprints/samples of any body-bits taken without my will or knowledge was, oh, never. Nobody hiding in an alley that I'm passing by is getting a good picture of my retina to forge. I don't believe any strangers I may have shook hands with were surreptitiously taking my fingerprints either. With an embedded RFID tag, you could be being positively identified at any time with a very minimal risk of the snooper being detected by you. With remote access, everything is right there for anyone with the right kind of snooping equipment. That's why they had to shield the covers of those RFID passports they came out with, so I guess one would have to put the thing in their wrist and then wear a shielded glove or wristband all the time to protect their privacy. Kind of defeats the purpose of the convenience, if one is at all privacy-minded.
[ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:Well. by shawb (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @03:05AMRe:Well. by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @03:42AM Re:Well. by Artfldgr (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @01:28PM Untrusted biometric scanners by LeDopore (Score:1) Thursday May 04,
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(Score:5, Insightful)by dgatwood (11270) on Thursday May 04, @12:10AM (#15259871) There are no real advantages to such a scheme and plenty of disadvantages. For example:
As soon as the technology improves, you have to get surgery to replace it with one that isn't spoofable.
There's the possibility of infection or other negative reaction to the device.
We have no idea what the long-term impact of these devices inside the human body could be.
And of course, there's the big one: instead of stealing someone's wallet to steal money from them, thieves will now start cutting off someone's hand---sort of a reverse medieval thing.
Indeed, for me---and apologies in advance for my language---I believe the answer is not so much "no", but rather, "hell fucking no." Slashdot | Social Consequences and Effects of RFID Implants? http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/05/04/0030212 Re:Well.
(Score:5, Insightful)by sconeu (64226) on Thursday May 04, @01:20AM (#15260169) (http://slashdot.org/ | Last Journal: Friday July 29, @01:12PM) \i{We have no idea what the long-term impact of these devices inside the human body could be.} Actually, we kind of do. This technology has been used on animals for years.
[ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:Well.
(Score:4, Insightful)by KillerCow (213458) on Thursday May 04, @03:58AM (#15260563)\i{We have no idea what the long-term impact of these devices inside the human body could be.} Actually, we kind of do. This technology has been used on animals for years. Only on animals that have a typical lifespan of 10 years though.
[ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:Well.
(Score:5, Funny)by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 04, @04:34AM(#15260651)five, with the implant.
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(Score:5, Insightful)by slashdot.org (321932) on Thursday May 04, @04:39AM (#15260662) (http://slashdot.org/~slashdot.org/journal/ | Last Journal: Friday August 27, @08:32PM) There are no real advantages to such a scheme and plenty of disadvantages Exactly. For some reason most people here seem to forget the most important thing: RFID has nothing to do with encryption/security. It's a serial number. What fucking good is that going to do you? So your car will start when your serial number is near? It should be pretty clear that faking a serial number is trivial. With RFIDs you don't even need physical contact to achieve that.
In other words:I am intrigued about building applications and solutions that will open my doors, unlock my car, log me on to my computer and control home automation will not be solved by RFID. I don't even understand where someone would get that idea. You'd be crazy to rely on that. If you think that doing security through positive identification of a certain physical human being present is a good idea (which is debatable to begin with), then you're probably better off doing fingerprint or iris-scanning.
Now if RFID tags had RSA or something built in, it would be a different story. But they don't.
Eh, this whole story makes no sense at all.
[ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:Well.
(Score:5, Interesting)by Nurgled (63197) on Thursday May 04, @07:07AM (#15260974) The car and computer thing are both daft, but the home automation goal has some merit. If you have a house where more than one person lives, having a home automation system that can track the movements of each person individually would be a major boon. Most current attempts at home automation are based around whether someone is in a room, rather than tailoring to each person.
Of course, you could ask what it would do when two people with conflicting preferences are in the same room, but that's just a software problem and is thus much easier to refine over time.
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(Score:5, Interesting)by neostorm (462848) on Wednesday May 03, @11:49PM (#15259758)Why exactly do you need an implant for this? This reads more as an attempt atresistance-numbing the public to the concept of implants themselves, because franky there's no viable reason you can't have all the features you listed in your keychain or wallet instead. I don'tsee the threat of lost or stolen hardware to be worth it.
Slashdot | Social Consequences and Effects of RFID Implants? http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/05/04/0030212 Re:Why? by Bieeanda (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @12:12AM Re:Why? by Ohreally_factor (Score:3) Thursday May 04, @12:21AMRe:Why? by bsartist (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @12:23AM Re:Why? by Ohreally_factor (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @12:35AM Re:Why? by Frosty Piss (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @12:16AM Re:Why? by number11 (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @02:55AM Re:Why? by Frosty Piss (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @10:52AM What no-one seems to have considered so far. by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @12:25AMRe:Why? by emjoi_gently (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @12:27AMRe:Why? by sleppy1 (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @12:53AM Re:Why? by Skreems (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @02:41AM Re:Why? by 1u3hr (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @04:50AM Re:Why? by Hogwash McFly (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @08:38AM Re:Why? by 1u3hr (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @09:05AMRe:Why? by 1u3hr (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @09:06AM Re:Why? by AGMW (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @09:08AM Re:Why? by DaveV1.0 (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @09:31AM Re:Why? by aemain (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @01:44AM Re:Why? by ObsessiveMathsFreak (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @07:27AM 1 reply beneath your current threshold.
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(Score:5, Insightful)by robogun (466062) on Wednesday May 03, @11:51PM (#15259770)How about skipping the implant and using the keys like normal human beings. Oh I get it, CNN doesn't interview normal human beings. No way I'm pulling the chip out of my BMW key and implanting it into my body because I want to get into my car 0.001 second faster. /no tattoos or piercings, either[ Reply to This ] Re:WTF by lancelet (Score:3) Thursday May 04, @12:17AM Re:WTF by Idarubicin (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @12:56PM Re:WTF by Ohreally_factor (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @12:37AMPrivacy by umbrellasd (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @12:46AM Re:Privacy by BootNinja (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @02:37AMRe:Privacy by Danga (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @02:53AM Slashdot | Social Consequences and Effects of RFID Implants? http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/05/04/0030212 Actually, you're missing a good opportunity here.
(Score:5, Interesting)by jd (1658) <[email protected][ ]com ['oo.' in gap]> on Thursday May 04, @01:22AM(#15260176) (http://slashdot.org/ | Last Journal: Saturday July 30, @01:33AM) You are correct that keys (in the case of, say, a door or car) are adequate security in many cases. If you need better security, use a "thieves lock" (it actually unlocks in the reverse direction than normal, with the normal direction causing the lock to disable itself until reset).
However, let's assume that this person WANTS the most high-tech solution imaginable. RFID tags are dumb devices with no meaningful logic, which means you can't do encryption key negotiation - or, indeed, any form of encryption at all. Anyone with a scanner can lift ALL of your keys with a simple RFID reader and can then impersonate you with impunity with ALL electronic devices.
If someone wants an implant - genuinely, truthfully, absolutely would die without one - then they should implant an intelligent device, preferably a small embedded general purpose computer. General purpose? Yes, then you only need one implant, which you can then program for ALL of your devices you want to control, rather than having one implant per device.
Strong, crypto would utterly defeat the RFID attack on cars mentioned in an earlier Slashdot story. It would also make the computer "unscannable" the way an RFID tag is, because it's no longer just a passive device. Further, an intelligent device could do ANYTHING you wanted, whereas an RFID tag could not. An embedded computer could monitor your temperature and control the thermostat accordingly, for example. An embedded tag could do nothing more than get crushed as the blood vessels expanded.
Personally, I would avoid implants. Implants can be thought of as deliberate splinters or deliberate cysts, depending on size. Both of these, when they occur naturally, can potentially turn nasty. The body really doesn't take kindly to foreign objects, if it detects them. When you've any kind of device that was probably not assembled in a clean-room environment, sterilized and completely clensed, there's a good risk that implants could carry unwanted hitchhikers. Even when it's all done properly, a good bruise near the implant could turn nasty. That's ignoring any chemical reactions between the implant and the body, which may have other unexpected consequences.
(You should also be aware of materials used. Materials that have a higher-than-normal level of alpha-particle emitters could seriously screw things up. The skin is thick enough to absorb alpha particles, in typical real-world conditions, which is just as well - soft tissue tends not to react too well to such things.) The embedded computer shares ALL of the health problems of an RFID tag, though scaled up because it is more complex and involves more components. It also needs a power source, so you'll occasionally need to rip yourself open to replace the lithium batteries.
Slashdot | Social Consequences and Effects of RFID Implants? http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/05/04/0030212 Now, there ARE ways to embed a computer in a person in a way that would minimize hazards on a day-to-day basis. However, there you're talking major surgery for the implant plus for each recharge. Surgery is, itself, extremely dangerous and not something you'd normally do just to add a gadget to your life.
It's possible to imagine surgical implants that COULD be recharged with less effort - such as enlarging the skull and using some of the space added, with a power outlet the bone can grow around - but we're talking serious sci-fi medical techniques here. Sure, there have been experiments involving wiring EEG devices directly to the human brain. Sure, even Stone Age medics could drill holes large enough to run a power outlet or an ethernet port. Sure, there are societies even today that deliberately reshape the skull. But to combine all of this AND enlarge an adult skull, not just reshape a child's. That is probably too complex for existing technology.
However, were implants to be a useful thing for society as a whole, a deep implant (such as in the chest cavity - if you can staple a stomach in half safely, you can wedge a matchbox-sized motherboard in there with absolutely zero impa Read the rest of this comment.
[ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:Actually, you're missing a good opportunity her by x2A (Score:3) Thursday May 04, @03:35AMRe:Actually, you're missing a good opportunity her by DanMc (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @09:26AMWRONG! on a lot of stuff by spineboy (Score:3) Thursday May 04, @09:32AM Re:WRONG! on a lot of stuff by Dark Coder (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @01:03PM Alpha emitters by jd (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @05:33PM Radionuclides, 101 by jd (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @05:44PM Re:Radionuclides, 101 by magetoo (Score:1) Sunday May 07, @03:58AM Re:Actually, you're missing a good opportunity her by es330td (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @12:29PMPower question by iivel (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @01:41PM 1 reply beneath your current threshold.
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Fuck that. by Vegeta99 (Score:2) Wednesday May 03, @11:53PM Re:Fuck that. by Super Dave Osbourne (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @12:05AM Re:Fuck that. by Mr. Slippery (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @12:53AMRe:Fuck that. by Vegeta99 (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @01:03AM Re:Fuck that. by Arimatheus (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @01:34AM Re:Fuck that. by Vegeta99 (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @02:17AM You need to implant this because.? by rebootconrad (Score:2) Wednesday May 03, @11:54PM When the Jones have them.
(Score:5, Insightful)by Super Dave Osbourne (688888) on Wednesday May 03, @11:55PM (#15259789) Slashdot | Social Consequences and Effects of RFID Implants? http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/05/04/0030212 I certainly won't even consider it. Nazi Germany comes to mind, marking folks for reasons ofID'ing them for whatever reason is not a good idea. SS is another thing that creeps me out, asystem of identification, now illegally used all the time to limit people's freedoms. Business all thetime limit doing business with someone if they don't provide a SS, yet that is illegal. When will itcome down to the same with a RFID? I suspect sooner than later, especially if the governmentgets involved in the process, and it already has. FDA anyone?[ Reply to This ] Re:When the Jones have them. by SunTzuWarmaster (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @01:16AM Re:When the Jones have them. by Fmuctohekerr (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @04:01AM Re:When the Jones have them. by gravij (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @06:28AM Re:When the Jones have them. by Fmuctohekerr (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @10:51AM Re:When the Jones have them. by McWilde (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @05:54AMRe:When the Jones have them. by rahrens (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @07:43AM Re:When the Jones have them. by Forbman (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @08:42AM Re:When the Jones have them. by mikesmind (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @03:14PMRe:When the Jones have them. by rahrens (Score:1) Monday May 08, @07:12PM It is not illegal to use SS numbers. by harl (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @01:50PM
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Geez, I wonder what could go wrong by Freaky Spook (Score:2) Wednesday May 03, @11:55PM Carry it?
(Score:4, Insightful)by jbbernar (41291) on Wednesday May 03, @11:56PM (#15259798)You could just carry the tag. Or wear it. Would that be too hard?[ Reply to This ] Re:Carry it?
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by udoschuermann (158146) on Thursday May 04, @12:16AM (#15259902)
(http://www.ringlord.com/people/walrus/)
That's right. Implanting the RFID tag robs you of the option of leaving it home when you
really don't care to have it around and be trackable, unless your real intention is to explore
the psychological implications of being robbed of that choice and having to learn to live
with yet another freedom abridged (by free will, no less. how twisted is that?)
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I just can't do it by Odocoileus (Score:1) Wednesday May 03, @11:56PM Re:I just can't do it by Engineer Andy (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @03:55AMRe:I just can't do it by Goaway (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @07:37AM Slashdot | Social Consequences and Effects of RFID Implants? http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/05/04/0030212 2 replies beneath your current threshold.
I don't see the appeal
(Score:5, Funny)by Colonel Panic (15235) on Wednesday May 03, @11:57PM (#15259806)It's like saying "Homeland Security, here I am! Track my every move!"[ Reply to This ] Re:I don't see the appeal by NitsujTPU (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @05:41AM
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RFID in passports is a dangerous idea anyway by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Wednesday May 03, @11:57PM Re:RFID in passports is a dangerous idea anyway by Danga (Score:1) Thursday May 04,
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Just a little stick.
(Score:5, Funny)by ndykman (659315) on Wednesday May 03, @11:57PM (#15259811)I think hardware upgrades should not involve needles, scapels and sutures. Call me crazy.
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Not that I don't enjoy the thought. by Runefox (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @12:16AMThe guy seriously needs to get a life. by liftphreaker (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @12:18AMWhy not an RFID key? by killjoe (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @12:23AM Re:Why not an RFID key? by NitsujTPU (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @05:17AM Life imitates art by digitalhermit (Score:3) Thursday May 04, @12:25AM Re:Life imitates art by adarn (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @03:42AMRe:Life imitates art by AusIV (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @09:30AMRe:Life imitates art by DaveV1.0 (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @09:54AM Slashdot | Social Consequences and Effects of RFID Implants? http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/05/04/0030212 1 reply beneath your current threshold.
Security through obscurity by eander315 (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @12:26AMMorbid Identity Theft by ShadowCloset (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @12:30AM Re:Morbid Identity Theft by Andy Gardner (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @04:53AM Re:Morbid Identity Theft by ShadowCloset (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @01:17PM Two Things - by Jah-Wren Ryel (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @12:34AM Re:Two Things - by thealsir (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @12:42AM Self-shielding RFID? by thealsir (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @12:34AM Re:Self-shielding RFID? by da.maestro (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @01:06AM What does the Slashdot community think? by kunwon1 (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @12:35AM 1 reply beneath your current threshold.
Bleeding edge! by Skippy_kangaroo (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @12:38AM The mark. by nofsinga (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @01:32AM Socially, it's not that far out! by triplej (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @12:39AMAs a compromise by Who235 (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @12:43AMWould have some utility by Infonaut (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @12:43AM Have you even thought about what you are saying?
(Score:4, Insightful)by Fallen Kell (165468) on Thursday May 04, @12:46AM (#15260039).solutions that will open my doors. You mean like to your home? How is this secure? I mean, truely, how? What your RFID only will respond to certain readers? Someone won't be able to have a portable reader connected to say a laptop that reads your RFID and uses that to program the correct response code to other readers? .unlock my car. I take it you didn't read the LA Times lately. For reference, go read this article [latimes.com] and when you are done, do you REALLY think they won't be able to do something similar? In fact it will be even easier, they just watch a place that gets a lot of expensive cars, place a few RFID readers around, wait for you to leave and then walk up to your car and drive away. They wouldn't even need to spend several minutes "cracking" your car's code since they got it from you when you drove into the lot.
.log me on to my computer. Get a fingerprint reader, or a smart card reader. Heck Sun has an entire system based on this for years, it will even move your active session from computer to computer (i.e. the applications you have open and running, your connections to other computers, the mozilla window on slashdot, the code you have compiling, etc.) .control home automation. Wow, you need to have a RFID "implanted" to do this? Why not a card or a chip, or widget that fits in your wallet? Why not that for ANY of the above? All you do with the implant is tag yourself for everyone else to see and track. A card/chip/widget can be easily changed. Same reason why you need to change passwords ever few weeks, it make it harder for someone to compromise and continue compromising your security.
[ Reply to This ]Eh? Why? by Telastyn (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @12:52AMIt'll be irrelevant soon enough by MagicDude (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @12:53AMWait until they start cutting off body parts by Nice2Cats (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @12:53AM Slashdot | Social Consequences and Effects of RFID Implants? http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/05/04/0030212 A stolen RFID key would mean. by Bob Cat - NYMPHS (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @12:57AMIt's a stupid idea by drivekiller (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @01:04AMLess Secure, I think by Wannabe Code Monkey (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @01:08AM Re:Less Secure, I think by s-orbital (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @01:14AM Go for it! by reignsphere (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @01:08AM (Score:5, Insightful)by austad (22163) on Thursday May 04, @01:09AM (#15260129) (http://www.juniperforum.com/) Last I saw, you could get these the size of a grain of rice. Why not just pierce your ear and stick itin the hole, or superglue it to your fingernail (which you'd have to redo periodically) Here's a reason no one thought of for these. If there's any ferrous metal in the device, you cannotgo into an MRI machine. Additionally, even though there may not be ferrous metal in it, the MRIcan still cause inductive heating on the device which can burn you. This is fine, when you'recoherent enough to tell the docs what you have. What happens if you are in a car accident or havea stroke, and they need to stick you in an MRI machine?[ Reply to This ] Re:why? by shogun (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @01:46AMRe:why? by Nefarious Wheel (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @01:48AMRe:why? by Metex (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @02:26AMRe:why? by NoMaster (Score:3) Thursday May 04, @03:20AM Re:why? by Forbman (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @08:34AM Re:why? by ShyGuy91284 (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @08:20AM Re:why? by venicebeach (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @10:42AM Re:why? by necro81 (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @09:09AM
Re:why? by markana (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @11:58AM
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Illegals by Fujisawa Sensei (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @01:12AM Re:Illegals by advocate_one (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @04:12AM Re:Illegals by Fujisawa Sensei (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @10:25AM Obsolescence
(Score:5, Insightful)by SecretAsianMan (45389) on Thursday May 04, @01:13AM (#15260142) (http://www.jeffreysharp.org/) Obviously, you have no sense of how quickly technology becomes obsolete.
Otherwise, you wouldn't want to implant that technology into you.
[ Reply to This ]Sure I'd do it. by Jonas56 (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @01:16AMthats crazy by Susceptor (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @01:27AMHuman Cattle by Anonymous Coward (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @01:30AM 2 replies beneath your current threshold.
Slashdot | Social Consequences and Effects of RFID Implants? http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/05/04/0030212 Can I implant my pocket instead?
(Score:5, Insightful)by blair1q (305137) on Thursday May 04, @01:31AM (#15260207) (Last Journal: Thursday October 17, @11:28AM) I typically wear pants everywhere I go, and the places I don't wear pants, I don't think I need to be uniquely identified.or at least, I think I'm pretty well recognized just by my physiognomy, yuh? So, please, instead of putting the proprietary and easily-obsolesced technological bolus UNDER MY GOD-DAMNED SKIN can I, yuh, just stick it in my pocket? That'd be brilliant. Cheers.
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well by scanning over the comments here by mikesd81 (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @01:34AMTheft of key by noidentity (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @01:38AM Re:Theft of key by plankrwf (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @04:04AM This Perfect Day by Jason1729 (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @01:40AMbetter biometrics devices by siddesu (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @01:50AMyour RFID is no match for my kung fu. by newante (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @01:50AMGood first step, but the journey is long. by LightningBolt! (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @01:50AMResistance is futile. by vloktboky (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @02:03AMUntil a criminal by ac7xc (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @02:13AMPossible advantages by MourningBlade (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @02:17AMPersonally. by jesusfingchrist (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @02:18AMimplants of any sort are not to be done casually by Engineer Andy (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @02:21AMRFID == SMTP? by Dr. Brad (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @02:26AMAmal Grappsta by ShakaUVM (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @02:30AMDecline of civilization by squoyster (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @02:42AMSecurity? by Kuukai (Score:3) Thursday May 04, @02:45AM Re:Security? by DaveV1.0 (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @09:24AM I'll let you know. by Generic Guy (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @02:55AMmadness by l3v1 (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @03:01AMrfid chips .with salsa? by acornboy (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @03:06AMRFID self-tagging forums by KaiLoi (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @03:25AMPoor tradeoff by renoX (Score:3) Thursday May 04, @03:28AMGet one . And I will own you by Allnighterking (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @03:39AMDefinitely not by mgschwan (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @03:40AMSign Me Up by GeoSanDiego (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @03:59AM Reading. . . by Fantastic Lad (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @09:01AM Slashdot | Social Consequences and Effects of RFID Implants? http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/05/04/0030212 RFID = 666?
(Score:5, Funny)by DinoPirate5000 (972725) on Thursday May 04, @04:05AM (#15260576)there are some people who believe RFID chips are the mark of the beast. and it almost fits for themost part: And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive aMARK in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he thathad the MARK, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let himthat hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. Rev. 13:16-18 although it also mentions that you canalso name the beast or know his number, so I don't know how accurate this is, but I've read about a computer system that stores all kinds of information from bar codes and stuff named Bavarian Economic Accounting Statistics Terminal (B.E.A.S.T. for short) There are a few other tie ins suchas the bible mentions those wearing the mark will have blisters and sores on the skin where the mark is. This is possibly caused by the body rejecting the RFID chip. I know it may sound alittlecrazy, but just think about it before you put these in your skin, don't wanna unleash the wrath of God on yourself because you didn't heed a fellow slashdotter's warning ;-)[ Reply to This ] Re:RFID = 666? by DarthChris (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @07:48AM Re:RFID = 666? by BCW2 (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @08:01AM 1 reply beneath your current threshold.
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Propaganda. by Fantastic Lad (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @08:54AM Re:Propaganda. by druske (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @11:45AM Belief. by Fantastic Lad (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @02:06PM Re:Belief. by druske (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @06:08PM
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Re:Propaganda. by Eli Gottlieb (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @01:53PM Questioning. . . by Fantastic Lad (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @02:20PM Re:Questioning. . . by Eli Gottlieb (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @05:32PM Re:Propaganda. by Fantastic Lad (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @09:53AM
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How do I switch it off? by throbi (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @04:08AMOpen source it by Yvanhoe (Score:3) Thursday May 04, @04:15AMstupid. absolutely bloody stupid. by advocate_one (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @04:18AMnobody is tagging you by destroygbiv (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @04:27AMAn interesting combination of links. by zaphle (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @04:30AMJust wear it as an ear-ring. by clickety6 (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @04:56AMQuality of life by Kev_Stewart (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @04:59AMBad move by mrpickle2u (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @05:44AM Re:Bad move by DaveV1.0 (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @09:19AM Chip Chic by Dyst Mingus (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @05:52AMtigerkidnapping by FreshnFurter (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @06:23AMProjections by j.leidner (Score:3) Thursday May 04, @06:24AM Re:Projections by solitas (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @08:22AM Slashdot | Social Consequences and Effects of RFID Implants? http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/05/04/0030212 I'd do it by kanweg (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @06:47AMwhich part of your body. by thomasa (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @06:59AMQuick answer: NO by backbyter (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @07:01AMIll pass thanks . by unity100 (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @07:16AMWhere to put it. by JetScootr (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @07:17AMWell. by Kildjean (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @07:19AMMutiliate yourself and become a credit card by sl4shd0rk (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @07:21AMProposed article tags by Ph33r th3 g(O)at (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @07:26AMNo to Implants by pedalfreak862 (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @07:27AMThe MICROCHIP by xiando (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @07:35AM 1 reply beneath your current threshold.
I have two answers to that. by MikeLip (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @07:48AMwhy implant? by instantiator (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @07:51AMCan't wait for. by Money for Nothin' (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @08:30AM Re:Can't wait for. by BalanceOfJudgement (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @02:12PM The point? by Palmedero (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @08:50AMInjected. by Fantastic Lad (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @09:06AMI'm not a religious nut, but . by macdaddy357 (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @09:08AM Re:I'm not a religious nut, but . by DaveV1.0 (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @09:46AM Re:I'm not a religious nut, but . by MikeLip (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @10:49AM Re:I'm not a religious nut, but . by DaveV1.0 (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @11:00AM Re:I'm not a religious nut, but . by robertjw (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @11:16AM Re:I'm not a religious nut, but . by DaveV1.0 (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @11:44AM Re:I'm not a religious nut, but . by Paladin144 (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @12:59PMRe:I'm not a religious nut, but . by robertjw (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @01:28PMRe:I'm not a religious nut, but . by BalanceOfJudgement (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @02:18PM Re:I'm not a religious nut, but . by MikeLip (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @11:51AM Re:I'm not a religious nut, but . by Thecarpe (Score:1) Friday May 05, @07:59AM Re:I'm not a religious nut, but . by DaveV1.0 (Score:2) Friday May 05, @09:13AM Re:I'm not a religious nut, but . by Thecarpe (Score:1) Friday May 05, @09:35AM Re:I'm not a religious nut, but . by SloJohn (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @09:54AM Wonderful by Oligonicella (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @09:11AMNo way. I'd prefer to use my old fashioned keys. by MrJerryNormandinSir (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @09:36AMI am reminded of Jurassic Park. by J'rathken (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @09:38AMWomen have been using them for years. by bodland (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @09:40AMNot enough coffee by The Fun Guy (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @09:44AMI don't see the point. by Professr3 (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @09:49AMID Theft? by DimGeo (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @09:50AMIf the RFID Implant did everything. by sjs132 (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @09:54AMOutlaw/Restrict Implants by Frozen Void (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @10:32AMThe Traveler by Kris_B_04 (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @10:36AMReal security by adamdeprince (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @10:36AMCould try a necklace or ring first ;-) by brainchill (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @11:11AM Slashdot | Social Consequences and Effects of RFID Implants? http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/05/04/0030212 Build in Some Security First by PatSand (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @11:29AMWould I do it? by slashdyke (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @11:36AMSwatch by wimbor (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @12:02PMrfid by hawfizzle (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @12:16PMNo need to implant by onid (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @12:25PMNo by Lodragandraoidh (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @01:15PMNo, it would be obsolete too quickly. by oblivion95 (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @01:21PMWon't it conflict with your existing implant? by CranberryKing (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @01:26PMNon security by GumbyDamnIt (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @01:29PMGives me the willies by RealErmine (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @01:52PMWhat the.? by FreshlyShornBalls (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @02:19PMEureka! by solarappleman (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @02:20PMImplants are not simply an issue of convienience by FantomMatt (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @03:06PMGPS Implants Next? by vancouverguy (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @06:43PMRFID that would be useful by DaveSchutz (Score:1) Friday May 05, @04:25PMThe end of the world as we know it. by Lizzy_Bee (Score:1) Saturday May 06, @07:22AMRe:I have nothing to hide by jx100 (Score:1) Wednesday May 03, @11:59PM Re:I have nothing to hide by Bieeanda (Score:1) Thursday May 04, @12:10AM Re:I have nothing to hide by NitsujTPU (Score:2) Thursday May 04, @05:52AM Re:I have nothing to hide by NitsujTPU (Score:2) Thursday May 04,
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